Date: 2017-06-29 08:05 pm (UTC)
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I'm following this account somewhat aspirationally--I hope to one day be able to understand the Japanese in its posts! In the meantime I try to scan for hiragana I recognize (and ironically have better luck understanding Swedish than anything else!) Wish me luck :)

Date: 2017-06-29 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sunlit_stone
Oh, I didn't mean that you should put it in English at all! It's an interesting challenge :D and it's a convenient way of tracking my progress!

It's funny what you say, though, about not thinking you could learn a foreign language I mean? I think I grew up with a different set of assumptions, just because pretty much everyone around here, even if they only speak one language, they can at least basically understand the other! And even more can hold conversations, or understand pretty much whatever even if they can't produce the other language fluently (e.g. me). I did French immersion in elementary school and in high school (you start off mostly in French and then you gradually switch to mostly in English, though since your classmates are mostly anglophones it's less useful than it sounds :P) And it's not even just French and English, a lot of people I know, if their parents were immigrants, they speak at least two of
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Oh, I didn't mean that you should put it in English at all! It's an interesting challenge :D and it's a convenient way of tracking my progress!

It's funny what you say, though, about not thinking you could learn a foreign language I mean? I think I grew up with a different set of assumptions, just because pretty much everyone around here, even if they only speak one language, they can at least basically understand the other! And even more can hold conversations, or understand pretty much whatever even if they can't produce the other language fluently (e.g. me). I did French immersion in elementary school and in high school (you start off mostly in French and then you gradually switch to mostly in English, though since your classmates are mostly anglophones it's less useful than it sounds :P) And it's not even just French and English, a lot of people I know, if their parents were immigrants, they speak at least two of <their parents' language, English, French> pretty fluently! Which is to say, it seems kind of odd to me that your classmates would be discouraged by this, or think they can't learn Japanese, but I figure you definitely know better than I would! (Clearly the solution is to just raise everyone in a bilingualish city :P)

>"and people hold english in such high regard, and feel so bad when they can't understand it on a page" --I've never thought of that before, but it makes a lot of sense! wow, my perspective is really limited, I try to think about these things but that had never occurred to me :/

Hopefully I will catch up! I just installed a hiragana learning game and I think I'm making some progress :) For Rikaichan, though, I don't think I can? I can't really type or use a mouse (and you can use some voice control but it's really exhausting, my machine always thinks I'm saying 'home' if I cough or something and sends me to the top of the page), so I'm always using my tablet or my phone. Fortunately Google's voice recognition is a lot better than Windows', even if there are still some typos I don't catch!

When is it you're leaving for the exchange, by the way? That's really exciting!!
Edited Date: 2017-06-29 11:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-07-01 03:00 am (UTC)
sunlit_stone: Finch and Reese on a bench (Default)
From: [personal profile] sunlit_stone
I mean I can't use a keyboard, that's the whole problem. I use Chrome, I don't think that extensions really work on a tablet? But they might, I suppose it's worth looking into. (One thing I can do on my tablet is highlighted and then send it to Google Translate, or Google it from highlight which usually does much the same except I get more definitions. I know it's not the same as an actual proper dictionary, but it's better than nothing!)

I don't think that's silly at all! It makes sense to draw conclusions from what you grow up around. But if you have fun learning languages, then it's a lot easier, and of course a lot more fun to put in the time :)

Oh, man, that's so soon! That's really exciting. Maybe by then I'll be able to make out some of what you're saying in your posts!!!

Speaking of which, I was looking at the title of this post, and I think I can make some of it out! Mostly not the meaning, but some of the sounds. The character in there looks like the character for language, like in 汉语, Mandarin (I was confused at first because it looked a little different, but then I realized of course Japanese probably uses traditional characters and I've been learning simplified, and when I looked it up it was the traditional version!). Then I'm not sure of the next hiragana (one of the k ones maybe? Or h?) And then I'm pretty sure that's do, and then u. (Which might mean 'way,' but to be honest I'm only guessing that because of, uh, Naruto.) So how'd I do? :)

Date: 2017-07-02 03:29 am (UTC)
sunlit_stone: Finch and Reese on a bench (Default)
From: [personal profile] sunlit_stone
Oh man! I'm really happy with myself now, I'm definitely learning this stuff! (And I really think I'm getting better at hiragana, and I've started on katakana, it's really exciting!!)

I've got to ask, though, is the どう related to the Naruto "it's my ninja way!" thing, or is that just a coincidence?

Date: 2017-07-04 10:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sunlit_stone
Yay! :D And thanks :)

Ah... I will, but I'm kind of trying to... slow down right now (you'll see). But I do look forward to using it, once I get there.

Date: 2017-07-04 11:03 pm (UTC)
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I'm going to make a post about it, but, uh, medical advice, basically. :/ Like I said, you'll see

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